i have had requests to add an article about beards and jehovah's witnesses.
it is interesting that there is virtually no statement that says a witness cannot have a beard, yet universally they do not have beards.
i have scoured quotes from all the threads on jwn, all references to beard on the cd watchtower library, and copies of elders letters that i have.
I was dragged to the noticeboard where the leaflet on 'correct attire when visiting bethel' was posted.
The PO said "do you see any of those brothers with a beard - NO"
I said "no, I don't see any moustaches either, does that mean they're banned as well?"
Stuff you mister self righteous.
i personally recorded a district overseer's statement he made in a talk, regarding calling someone a "despicable fool".
(matthew 5:22) .
he basically equated that term with calling someone an apostate!!!
ok i'm chatting on facebook with a guy who's studying with jws, who isn't yet an unbaptised publisher because he can't kick the cancer sticks.
now i don't believe in the bible anymore, but i say i do to get a bit of common ground with this guy.
it's a common attitude among jws.
Don't give up , that sounded to me like AT LEAST you've sown some seeds, if not actually gotten through a little. . . .
At the very least youve helped them realise that apostates arent bile filled lie spewers but reasonable reasoners.
This conversation will stick with them for sure, and when they start seeing the attitudes youve described then itll all come flooding back..
Well done!
this is part 3 of a series of posts i plan to make.
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Thanks for posting , this is very helpful information .
I want to get my wife out. She's the best, we are best friends, but we are both born in so theres no pre-cult personality there... i guess i need to look for the authentic person underneath all the conditioning and nice hair.
i have to say, i am afraid i found this chapter labourious to read in most places.
imo i felt he just wasn't getting to the point.
i don't get why dawkins felt the need to teach me all about platoism, essentialism and rabbits.
http://www.jw.org/en/news/
wouldn't it be nice if they said 'you know what, we've made millions in property sales recently, lets donate a couple million to a philipines relief fund..'
ten vans full, probably just for jw's.
Nice summary konceptual!
I agree, one of the lasting damages that the WT mentality leaves is that the Kingdom will solve all so there's no point rearranging the chairs on the titanic.
http://www.jw.org/en/news/
wouldn't it be nice if they said 'you know what, we've made millions in property sales recently, lets donate a couple million to a philipines relief fund..'
ten vans full, probably just for jw's.
Thanks for providing an alternative viewpoint emeth, it is always good to see a healthy debate. It can get a little one sided on here sometimes... I hope you weren't censored. But if you REALLY wanna taste censorship, post ANYTHING controversial on jwtalk! dare ya!
been going nuts looking for this.. i am sure i have read, and probably saved, a quote by them about not being false prophets but i am buggered if i can find it anywhere in search, google or my own pc.. can you help?.
i think its 2009 but not sure, where they have the line 'never have we said ''jehovah has said'' when ...'.
a link or pdf or scan or cut n paste, etc would be great!.
when you look at the image above what do you see?
a sneaker or an outward display that i am now following after another religious group?.
well yesterday i had a 10 minute conversation with an elder who finally got the balls to call me.
http://www.jw.org/en/news/
wouldn't it be nice if they said 'you know what, we've made millions in property sales recently, lets donate a couple million to a philipines relief fund..'
ten vans full, probably just for jw's.
Hah ! Way to attract attention to oneself !
Tbh you cant knock the fact that theyre sending out aid, but it galls me that they could do so much more.
and at the same time they slag off churches of christendom for not getting the preaching/humanitarian balance right. A GOOD DEED IS A GOOD DEED no matter who does it..